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When did Crichton start calling his gun 'Winona'?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 3:52 am
by rabbitguy
Hey now!
1st, thanks to Dani and Mary for keeping the site up, and especially for making the database of episodes!!! Truly a daunting task, and much appreciated during season 4, when I drowned my sorrows by reminiscing about the past 3 seasons!!

Does anyone know what episode Crichton started calling his pulse pistol Winona, and for what reason? Was he a country music fan, or a fan of 'Heathers'?? I tried to find it back when scifi re-ran all 4 seasons, but to no avail.

And one more thing to start some discussion...has anyone read the upcoming season of Enterprise??? Sounds like Rick Berman was a Farscape fan too...for plagiarizing ideas!! A new seductive woman joins the crew, and Earth is in jeopardy from invasion, and the Enterprise must go into the uncharted Delphic Expanse??? Where's the line start to smack Rick Berman in the head with the final Farscape magazine?? I want in!!

RE: When did Crichton start calling his gun 'Winona'?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 9:00 am
by Sandworm
I know why - it is after Winona Ryder.
I dunno, but I think it was probably before Self inflicted wounds part 1: Could'a Would'a Should'a, and I know it was before A clockwork Nebari, but I dunno for certain. sorry

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RE: When did Crichton start calling his gun 'Winona'?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 7:51 pm
by .Ident.
Presumably it was sometime after Won't Get Fooled Again (Eat that, sucker!!). The first time I recall him calling it Winona was in A Clockwork Nebari. So Winona would have first appeared in The Locket, but I don't remember him calling it Winona in either that or The Ugly Truth.

RE: When did Crichton start calling his gun 'Winona'?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 2:24 am
by rabbitguy
Cool. Thanks for the update. I guess I should've figured typical Farscape--introduce something and leave the very first mention out for us to extrapolate on.
I'm sure Aeryn probably thought that was a typically human response--Crichton babbling about his gun. ;-)

I'll have to go back and revisit those episodes mentioned.

Thanks for the responses friends!!

RE: When did Crichton start calling his gun 'Winona'?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 1:16 am
by thoth
This is just one thing episode transcripts available online are good for (thank you Shrift's!). It was indeed in "A Clockwork Nebari." I was also keeping my ears open for the first mention of Winona during the full reruns and I distinctly remember it being during a conversation with Chiana.

In the opening scene Crichton and Chiana are arguing about them getting information about a slave auction during a trip to find info on Jothee and about what Chiana had to do to get that info.

CHIANA: You're just crying because Winona jammed!

CRICHTON: *raising pulse pistol* Hey, Winona has been very reliable. It's not her fault that she jammed.

We don't really know how long he's been calling it Winona. Just a couple episodes previously in "Won't Get Fooled Again" Crichton sets his pulse pistol on overload and jams it into a Scarran's mouth. If the pulse pistol actually exploded, it's likely that in ACN he had been calling his current pulse pistol Winona starting only just recently. If the pulse pistol simply released a charged-up shot and didn't explode, maybe it was Winona. Also, on a less canon note, I've read that in the Farscape computer game there is an easter egg in which John "finds" Winona for the first time and that game it set before "A Bug's Life." But that wouldn't make sense since Crichton didn't start regularly carrying a pulse pistol until after sitting in the Aurora Chair.

RE: When did Crichton start calling his gun 'Winona'?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 4:51 pm
by trustywinona
a clock work nebari was the first time he calls it winona...im guessing that whole scene in the beginning of that ep was to establish his new and special friend.

RE: When did Crichton start carrying a pulse pistol????

PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 2:33 am
by TINemo
I know in the first several eps he was unarmed unless he took over Aeryn's pulse rifle(and blew it up) or borrowed D'Argo's sword, or the cuff thing in TTBRC.

Anybody remember when he started wearng the holster and carrying it all the time?? I don't
TINemo

RE: When did Crichton start carrying a pulse pistol????

PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 6:26 pm
by Big Duck
I think he started to wear one when he started to dress like a Peacekeeper...

Hmm... quickly looking through the episode images it would seem that at least in A Bug's Life he didn't have one and in Bone to Be Wild he did have... I really can't see from the images if he had one while meeting Scorpy for the first time... propably he at least should have had... (impersonating a Peacekeeper and all..)

RE: When did Crichton start carrying a pulse pistol????

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 8:00 pm
by .Ident.
The ep before A Bug's Life is Through the Looking Glass and he doesn't have a gun then. So I think that he started carrying a gun when he started pretending to be PeaceKeepers and then because of Scorpy he just carried one all the time after. I am pretty certain that he blew up his first pp in Grath's mouth and so had to get a new one which he then called Winona - wonder if he had a name for his first gun?

RE: When did Crichton start carrying a pulse pistol????

PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 8:51 am
by Sandworm
In Farscape the game (I dunno if this helps at all), he says he grabbed his pulse pistol on the way out at the beginning, suggesting that he already had it...

He doesn't call it Winona, though.

Re: Winona

PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 1:51 am
by Radegund
Hey all. I'm new to the board.

I just want to know, why "Winona"? What's the pop culture significance? I haven't explored
this board yet (I've been suffering FS withdrawal pretty much on my own), so I don't
know if anyone else has suggested ideas. I figured out the "Harvey" reference fairly quickly,
but "Winona" is stumping me. Also, I notice when Crichton says it, it's "Win-ona" not
"Why-nona".

In the Season One DVD commentary, Claudia Black mentions that Ben Browder tends to
"riff" on the script. Even Gigi Edgely mentioned being intimidated when she was first on set
because of the improvisational nature of the performances. So, did Ben Browder make
"Winona" up or was it in the script? Has anyone ever asked him?


Later,

radegund

PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 11:29 pm
by Cattivo
Probably has to do with Winona Ryder.

Re: Winona

PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 12:35 am
by Dani Moure
Radegund wrote:I just want to know, why "Winona"? What's the pop culture significance? I haven't explored this board yet (I've been suffering FS withdrawal pretty much on my own), so I don't know if anyone else has suggested ideas. I figured out the "Harvey" reference fairly quickly, but "Winona" is stumping me. Also, I notice when Crichton says it, it's "Win-ona" not "Why-nona".

Our Ben Browder interview answers that question... it is indeed Winona Ryder.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 1:19 am
by Radegund
Thank you so much, Dani!

If the name Winona first appeared in A Clockwork Nebari in fall 2000, say they were filming in
1999. According to imdb.com, that means any of Ryder's work including and prior to
Girl Interrupted might have been inspiration for the naming. Hmm, maybe Alien Resurrection
(1997)? (for the scifi genre and use of weapons, and it stands out as very different from
the rest of Ryder's work.)

radegund

Re: When did Crichton start calling his gun 'Winona'?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 11:41 pm
by CB2001
According to canon, it was some time in Season 1, between "Through the Looking Glass" and "Nerve" when he found the gun and named in Winona.

Also, the fact that the name Winona is named after Winona Ryder makes sense (as in Season 4, when in John Quixote, the "John Headroom" suggested naming the sword he was carrying "Uma", as in Uma Thurman, another actress).