In a quoting mood, tho I know we all can follow along without them <g>:
chryse wrote:Darn, I liked Linderman to be Claire's daddy. Oh well, it IS cute that Claire and Peter hit off so well when they met. Did Nathan ever see Claire when he went to get Peter? I think he didn't, but I'm not sure.
Nope- Nathan doesnt even know that he rescued a cheerleader, as far as we know. He and Peter communicated at some point -probably that call to the lawyer <g> but it may have just been messages, Peter still seemed surprised to see him actually come down to Texas (tho it may have been an after effect of the dream) So Nathan knows Peter went down to save a cheerleader, nearly died and got arrested for the death of cheerleader, and may or may not know that a cheerleader was rescued. As far as he was concerned, Peter screwed up. Like Nathan knew he would.
Claire was the only person that knows everything, tho we can be sure HRG put most of it together and was two steps ahead in that coma meltdown phase. -and did nothing to stop it, which is why I thought he may have arranged an illness. Guess not
- suppose that was why they added that bit with Nathan saying to Simone "Just before he passed out, he said something about absorbing too many powers."
Peter said nothing of the kind, he just rambled about being the bomb that sets off the city, and it all being his fault. But sometimes in this show they just like to get started with an idea already in the works, even if it hasnt happened yet. I shall kindly guess that Peter said a few more things in delirium the next time he woke up, and then
passed out for two weeks.
Why slow the story down with details, when they do a pretty good job with them, for as many stories as they tell at once.
chryse wrote:I think HRG's been doing a really good job of keeping his family and his wife out of harm's way. He already knew that Claire was being targeted, that's why he was helping Isaac, and so took steps to keep her and the rest of the family out of harm's way. I think the only reason Sylar got to his home was because he'd locked up HRG in his own cell. You can bet that family security is going to get even tighter now that HRG lost Sylar and Sylar's made his intentions toward Claire crystal clear. As for keeping his wife's memories clear.. well, no one like Parkman is ever gonna get her husband's secret from her now is he?
If he cares more about his secret getting out than protecting his family, the erasure was a good idea - I just think the timing was far too premature. For all they know Sylar could have come barging back in, he'd only just pulled his disappearing act, and he'd easily handle the three of them if he put his mind to it. (ooooh - fine. I think I meant the pun, just a little.) If someone like Parkman did find out, you can bet he'd be a lot more useful in finding Sylar- it would make Claire
a lot safer if Parkman knew. Off with the secrets and on with the rescue!
Eventually Mom would get erased, but ..I would have let that one go at least a day. Just my little scold about security and what I would have done to protect Claire if she was my
Sylar went to the house to get Claire. He's got this creepy pervert thing going on about him now, as well as psychotic killer. Mom thought she had a pervert on her hands and was (slowly) beginning to connect him to the thing that killed Jackie,- and what the heck was going on with that deep voice bit?
Hey, on the Sylar bit - did anyone else besides me think he was using something from the cockroach as his model to 'fix' himself to be resistant to the drug and let himself die/appear dead? He was staring at it an awful lot ... reminds me a bit of Mohinders "God is a cockroach" speech *shiver* (not in a good way)
Revenge on HRG, killing off Mom, was just the bonus. But Claire's ability is at the top of his most wanted list, to keep healing and coming back. Pity he's got so much smarter/better memory now that he's got the waitress's talent. I actually dont think there's much of security system at the house, just the normal locks on the door. Zach had no problem scrambling in the window, nor Claire and he escaping across the lawn. Basic security systems have sensors, motion detectors, that sort of thing. Once Sylar tracked the house down, nothing may have kept him out anyway with all of his abilities- but there was nothing there. Maybe HRG will change his mind about that
I do love the little thing they threw at us this ep, that we have never heard HRG's first name. I didnt notice (I mean, he's HRG, not Mr Bennet, to me!) till 'Mom' did that big thing with almost saying his name, but not <g> Its a lot like the way they kept waving Chandra Suresh's picture around every ep, each time it was not the picture they showed us in the ep before. They really started emphasizing that pic, once they knew the viewers knew
chryse wrote:Isaac doesn't know that Eden is dead does he? Poor guy.... I don't think he's turned to the dark side. As far as he knows, Eden and Bennett helped him a great deal and does so for other supers as well. He considers them good guys, Bennett was trying to save his daughter and Eden helped him get over his drug addiction so that he could use his powers without the drugs. That's really all he knows about them.
Well, new cult members never really do know they've been turned to the dark side, now do they? Isaac thinks he's on the side of angels, just as Eden did, therefore anything and everything is justified by the cause. (I think he does know about Eden's death - she let him go before she died, but if he's been in contact with them since, I think HRG would have mentioned it - a good way to pressure Isaac to take her place. "We need you to replace the hero who saved you" kind of argument) He may have had his memory wiped about Eden forcing him to take drugs after he'd finally defeated the physical part of the cycle. Or maybe he just doesnt remember it all that well. But he thinks he's found the underground Justice League, he'll do whatever they ask, no matter how bad it seems. He's got to stop a nuclear bomb, a little spying and kidnapping is nothing - if HRG tells him to track down another innocent, Isaac would do it without questioning. Just like our Evil Waif, trying to turn her life around. She did a lot of bad things because she believed in her cause, but 6m down the line she was questioning why. When again she was given commands to hurt someone - and when she finally got Isaac better and then HRG asked her to hurt him, made her finally do it, that's when she knew she couldn't be the new moral person she wanted to be, and work for a group like this. She intended to leave this life behind the same way she left her old life behind, and start over by freeing Isaac, killing Sylar, and telling Mohinder the truth. Absolve the sins she could, since she couldnt bring back Chondra.
Will Isaac have a similar awakening? I dont know .. he was introduced very gently, and HRG even managed to explain that sometimes the subjects get killed trying to escape, without making it seem evil .. just a little flaw in the system that might happen someday to anyone, crossing the street and not looking both ways.
I really liked Isaac, dedicated guy, but I have a bad feeling about him and his role in the future. He sees that destruction when he paints - he's seen it happen more than anyone besides Peter, and we saw how raving mad Peter got for a while. Isaac would do just about anything to stop it, and once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate .. oh wait. That's the Force again.
Anyhow, I think Isaac is (entirely well meaning) dark horse that could go either way in the future eps this season. Have to see if he survives November 8th to guess after that.
chryse wrote:Simone's father seems to be playing a minor role too. He owns the building Isaac lives in and Isaac himself pointed out that the roof seems to be important.... more than just the pigeons for Chris to take care of.
To be honest, I thought Isaac was thinking that because he sensed Peter was on the roof. He kept trying to paint Peter and kept painting scenes around the city, and the roof -because thats where Peter and Chris have their little heart to hearts, its the only place he's returned to again and again.
But then when Simone talked about her dad wanting to let the pigeons be - I think her dad knew about Chris, and was his benefactor, in a small way. Why else would Chris have chosen that building? I wonder if he was an empath too, his ability working a bit differently .. but he sensed things and set the building up a certain way .(Superhero headquarters <g>) hoping to let Chris come up there, the same way Chris kept the birds. Let him go once a day, and he keeps coming back. "Sounds like free will to me"
chryse wrote:I wonder if HRG meant "old friend" in the good way or the bad way when Isaac called him about Peter and his "new" power to be invisible.....
Now, about this 'old friends' bit - I think we actually just got a bigger clue about whats going on here. Remember how I keep saying I want to know the trigger, what started off all these abilities 6 months ago, everyone all at once in this group? Well it looks like there was another group that happened a long time ago and HRG's thugs/cult went after them as well. But 15yrs ago, there was a breakout. Claire's mom, Meredith got away, believed killed in the fire. 15yrs is exactly how long Chris has been running away as well, cutting himself off from all attachments in fear of being caught, of giving himself away. HRG thought Chris was dead. He'd have had everyone Chris cared about watched for a long time, to make sure an invisible man wasnt lurking about. Chris's survival depended on being dead, staying dead... and then when it was safe, watching those he loved go on without him.
So - Five people were supposed to have died in that fire. How much do you want to bet Chris was one of them? Who else was there? What powers did they have? Did they die, are they also escapees from that little group - was HRG their Sam Jerard, hunting them down for what they were and what they did? Was this their only escape, turning the accident to their own gravesite so they could disappear among the ashes? (It had to be some kind of accident, Meredith would never have sacrificed her baby) Tune in next week, to see these questions barely prodded at bcs I dont think the writers expect the majority of viewers to have put all this together yet. But .. wow.
But I feel bad for Chris .. I have such a bad feeling about him ending up on an operating table in HRG's lab, or dying to escape such a fate.
chryse wrote:Ok, so Peter and Chris follow Simone to the roof... but they don't follow her and Isaac to dinner? Come on! LOL It was hug, and Simone was upset about Peter being lost, not anything Isaac was doing. *rolls eyes* Peter, stop being so stupid about women!
Yes, well, they were some distance away so ..some of the nuances were lost. To keep themselves from being heard, of course. Okay , so its mandatory soap opera stuff. Anyone caught in a love triangle must be misunderstood by at least one, possibly both others caught in the triangle at least 30% of the time. Its in the rule books, look it up.
Besides, I think Peter had had enough. At this point he can convince himself there is another explanation, tho Chris is (cheerfully) pouring the poison down his throat. If he follows them to dinner [okay a) that might be bit harder to maintain no presence in a restaurant if people keep stumbling over you, but b)] Peter might find more irrevocable proof there, and he's not ready for that yet .. he needs to simmer a while before he deal with this.
chryse wrote:Chris was really hard on Peter. Throwing him off the building was not nice.
No ...not nice pretty much sums it up. I've been waiting for something to happen on that roof since the first time they went up there. (I was hoping for the flying as well) I think Chris only put 60-40 chance Peter would survive when he did it, but he did it anyway
..but while that makes him scary, also makes him kind of fun. He did take the whole day to train Peter before giving such a final 'lesson' ... so he tried to give him a chance. But he clearly is the maniacial kind of Ben Kenobi.
Did you see that Isaac painted Peter in mid flight falling straight on top of the taxi? Except that he was invisible in the painting so we didnt quite realize ... did you see it had advertisements for the historical display at the museum? The one with the sword ..well, the replica .. the connections follow thru again.
chryse wrote:Rather disappointed in Takei's appearance as Hiro's dad. I was expecting more acting, rather than just the traditional stern Japanese father bit. I was very proud of Hiro for standing up to his dad like that AND pushing his older sister in the spotlight. Takei was obviously going for the really old-fashioned Japanese male, with all the prejudices against women and all the expectations of the family's son. It's a hezmana of a thing to stand against that, especially when you've grown up with it, not just in your family but in your entire culture as well. Hiro's learning that it's not just a special power that can make someone into a hero.
Oh, Takei's car... license plate NCC-1701! LOL
I cant believe I missed that! so funny!
I agree too, that it was too bad they made him only there for such a short time and that he didnt get to do anything more in-depth. I had such hopes - bcs we know he can act and thought for sure they'd give him something to have fun with and cut his teeth into as well.
Do you think they edited out our story about Sulu? I thought for sure that Ando's comment about "Your father looks angry."
"He always looks angry."
was going to be followed by:
"Your father looks like Sulu."
"That's why he always looks angry."
or, you know, punchline of your choice. But I thought for sure that was the place for it, and that it got edited out.
very sad moment for me, not to hear that one.
On the other hand, Ando's instant infatuation of Hiro's sister, straight out of all the olderboys in Pokemon's reaction to any female nurse or cop (if you havent had to sit thru these, thank the powers that be that your little one wasnt Pokemon obsessed) was pretty funny. Kept the humor going.
Solution was awfully quick to turn dad around.. She'd been running 3 divisions while Hiro worked in a cubicle and dad never noticed till now? but time was a factor.. we'll see how it goes from here.
chryse wrote:What is Linderman going to ask of Nicki and DL now? *shivers up spine* It's scary.
I'm picturing tagteam assassin.
Jessica more than DL- DL just owes a favor, Jessica could take this up as a lifestyle. Money and killing, she'd have found her dream job. Till one day she decides to kill Linderman and the spiderweb unravels completely. Then she dies...very sad. Only Niki can save everyone now!
Aeryn wrote: "We're all going to die."
well.. seemed appropriate.
Do you think Matt, becoming obsessed, will be the next HRG, when the time comes for him to find a replacement? Him being HRG or Linderman, if he's the hire-er, that orders HRG around. I see our really decent guy and husband and family man, becoming the next Sam Gerard obsessed if he doesnt get a support system under him.