Sebacean physiology

[pushka]

I would have to agree it's not just a female thing. Scorpius has the problem with heat because he's part Scarren. He needs the cooling rods inserted into his head to keep cool so he wont suffer as Sebaceans do with Heat Delerium. If it was something that only females had problems with and not males, Scorpius would not have to worry about the heat affecting him.

[AERYNSUN]

Scorpius has a doble problem with that. Scarrans love heat, sebaceans hate it. That's his weak point.

I wonder if half it was the case that scorpius was a femanle, not male, would she be able to retain a fetus in stasis for 7 cycles?

Or Scorpius has the problem with the paraphoral nerve that sebaceans have? because it would be difficult to find a compatible donor due to his spsecial race.

[TINemo]

Yeah I know. I was wondering how else male Sebaceans differed from hoo-mans. Crais had the interesting problem of breaking out in welts and sores when Talyn was upset with him .Result I guess of the *finger of fate* neural connection. I don't remember any episode where he was affected by heat as the Commandos were--but then he was not carrier-born. He was conscripted from his father's planet along with the brother who dies in Premiere.

Why would they want heat intolerance, or what did they value that heat intolernce was the tradeoff???????

Longer lives and better healing make sense---were they related????
Would we trrade heat intolerance for longer life and better healing?????
All menopausal women probably vote no, but I live in a generally cold to cool---with the occansional 100 degree day with 95% humidity--and I'd like to heal bwetter. I've already lived long.

[AERYNSUN]

Wjat I wonder is, if medical scientists has discover so many advancements in sebacean fisilogy, why haven't they fund a cure for the heat delirium=

If tht's someting natural in sebaceans, pk's or not, such as the paraphoral nerve, I thought there must be a cure for that. Maybe they are not so advanced as they claim to be.

And the fact that we have never seen Crais suffering heat delirum, has nothing to do with what he was coscriopted. He is sebacean so he also has tis problem. OI think that we have problabley not seen him in such situation. And the `rpblem with the effects that Talyn has on Crais, it's not something natural in sebaceans That's an effect caused by the "hand of friendship".

It's a kind of injure, caused by external causes, not natural causes.

[Mreen]

They didnt show Crais having heat delerium because he was never trapped in a hot place - they can only do that heat delerium so much before it becomes overdone, and the story certainly used it a lot with Scorpy (whose mother was a colonist, not carriar born)

Obviously they didnt value the weakness, the Peacekeepers shunned and feared all weaknesses, the heat delerium bothered them so much that it was the only time they killed their own out of mercy. Aeryn also knew that if a soldier was particularly despised he might be offered honorable retirement - which she knew, while meant to fool the officer, in the end meant being given the 'living death' of heat delerium, till someone put her out of her misery. She'd seen too many tricks like that before.

Gotta stick with what we know, the Sebacians had developed the weakness somehow, it was something they all had, and was said to be their greatest fear.
(Hence their greatest enemy used biological heat glands and heat weapons, and craved heat. Seemed like the very devil to the Peacekeepers)

[Rav Winston]

Wjat I wonder is, if medical scientists has discover so many advancements in sebacean fisilogy, why haven't they fund a cure for the heat delirium=

Maybe the Sebaceans were more concerned with Military Tech and expanding their own power. So their Budget Appropriations Committee shortchanged medical research in favour of their own military-industrial complex.

[Firecracker]

Or, when the Eidelon's accelerated Sebacean evolution they conveniently installed a leash that could be used should the PK's become recalitrant.

I mean - someone had to be able to get through Eidelon/PK defences on Arnessk to drop the probes that put the Eidelon Heirarch and everyone else into stasis. Who better than the trusted accolytes? Who had decided they had had enough of being cannon fodder.

[AERYNSUN]

But heat delirium is killimg the, well, not exactly, but makes them weak and it's suposed that pk's are superior to any other race in the universe.

Scarrans know exactly how to beat them. Or maybe as you said, as high command doesn't get out of the command carriers or the headquarters or wherever they are, they don't have to suffet heat delirum, and theirs quarters are with a very suitable temeprature.

Definetely, peacekeepers only care for oneselfves.

[TINemo]

I was making the point--or I thought I was---that if only carrier born females have been altered to have the stasis pregnancy anomoly,are only carrier born males subject to heat delirium. We saw few non-carrier born Sebaceans--only ones I remember were in the Princess trilogy and Crais and his brother.In the trilogy,both the wimpy brother(who was presumably born on that world) and Jenovia(who presumably was carrier born) were weakened/sickened by the Scarran's heat ray--as was John--but there is no story line about heat delirium.

It's another of those unclear concepts that come up especially when different writers do different episodes and don't get all the minutiae correct.

[AERYNSUN]

Scarrans are able to weaken whoever they meet in their way. And I think that even John, of scorpous doesn't intervene in Fetal Attraction.

[Rav Winston]

So, are we saying that Sebaceans are just slightly more susceptible to heat stroke than humans?

--Apart from that nasty permanent fever they go into after prolonged exposure, that is.

[Mreen]

No, they are a lot more susceptable. John was cranky in the heat and Aeryn was babbling incoherently - later several commandos were on the verge of collapsing and John was barely sweating ... They do have a much higher resistance to cold than humans tho.. Some scenes saw most of the crew huddled trying to escape the cold, while Aeryn and Zhaan seemed uneffected. Aeryn was bundled a little bit, but really didnt seemed to be bothered at all, while D'argo, Rygel and John and Chiana were shivering under blankets.

[pushka]

They do have a much higher resistance to cold than humans tho..

That is true, however, some humans have different resistances to cold. Many of my friends will be shivering away in two jumpers and a coat while I'm wearing a thin jumper over a T-shirt a little warm. Whereas they prefer the heat, I tend to pass out a lot and sweat pretty badly!

Due to my preference of the cold over the hot and a comfort zone of between 5 - 8 degrees C, I think I may be more Sebacean than human if it were possible!

So, perhaps the link between Sebaceans and humans is not so great for some.

[AERYNSUN]

yes, but even if in humans there's the high/low tolerance to cold and heat, it0s obvious that extremm heat make us feel very sicuj, si in my opinio yes, we are more sebaceans than scarrans.

I love heat more than cold but an excess of heat makes me feel very sick and even sometimes faint.

Defnitely, I',m eSebacean.

[Rav Winston]

H'm. I rather enjoyed my time living in Taiwan. I got used to the heat of SE Asia.

Does that make me a Scarran spy?